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[tragedy-for-sale]

Tales of the Underworld: Ventress

Significance Beyond the Screen

Greeting! Let's talk about the significance of this scene. Now, we'll get a few things out of the way. Dark Disciple, if you're unfamiliar, is a story, that in a nutshell, follows Quinlan and Ventress, it came out in 2015. The main thing to keep in mind: this book was based on 8 scripted but uncompleted episodes of the Clone Wars we never got to see. The final episode of this arc being titled 'The Path." That is SUCH a downplay explanation of the book, but this intro is very long as is, so, perhaps we'll get into that later, mh?

Now, Quinlan's story gets a little tricky, there's a lot in legends and in the comics that can make his lore hard to follow in complete depth. For the sake of this post, let's talk timeline, this also gets a little crowded, so hold on; Dark Disciple takes place after season 6, but before the Siege of Mandalore. After the first four episodes of S7 (I.e. TBB introduction) is where chapters 1-25 will take place, then, the comic series Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir takes place before chapters 26-42. Then, you'd reach the SoM. You could even add the unfinished CW episode 'Crystal Crisis on Utapau' right before TBB episodes. Also, if you're unfamiliar with Quinlan and Obi-Wan's relationship, they met as padawans, etc... and when Quinlan starts drifting dark, it's Obi-Wan that pulls him back to the light. (I don't remember the details of that comic)

In this post, there will be spoilers of Ventress' arc in Tales of the Underworld and the Dark Disciple novel. You will also be subjected to listening to me tell you why you should read Dark Disciple.

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||The bleakest part about being a Jedi, is when we fail||

Obi-Wan Kenobi is the one in which this quote belongs, in the novel, we see Obi-Wan advocating for not just Quinlan, but for Ventress. When you think of Obi-Wan as being so true to the lightside, this book confirms it. It very much lives up to the "You cannot save everyone, Master Kenobi."

There is a deep significance that should scream to you, seeing Obi-Wan with Quinlan, to see his grief as much as his own. In the Clone Wars series, you hear Obi-Wan say he never liked hanging out with Quinlan, but for someone he doesn't like being with, in canon and legends, Obi-Wan never leaves Quinlan's side. To understand that in its entirety, we must reflect upon Quinlan's past, and how Obi-Wan was there. (He sits alone for almost two hours just waiting for Quinlan).

Perhaps because he sees a wild Jedi walking on the thin line of light and dark and cannot help but to root for him, because if he can overcome his darkness, so can Anakin... Right?

There is something so poetic about Quinlan's last words to Ventress being "I will always love you," Sound a little familiar, right? Quinlan lowering Ventress after watching her die for him, him continuing to follow the path of the light, when he's at the darkest point in his life, he returns Ventress to her home and he and Obi-Wan leave together? The way Obi-Wan is the person he never got when he lost everything.

All of this is happening right on the cusp of Episode 3; this is a story where the Jedi Council doubts, where we can understand how Jedi like Qui-Gon and Anakin start to stand apart from the Council ideals. Like them, Quinlan is often at odds with them, and we see his journey of light a battle he fights alone because of this.

In her death, Obi-Wan defends Ventress to The Council for saving Quinlan. In almost a desperate plea that they will see, for all her bad deeds, despite her past, in the end, she was worthy of loving, she was worth mourning. I am not painting The Council as villains in this story either, it is, however, quite a read to see how they approach the events of this novel.

Dark Disciple is as much about Quinlan and Ventress as it is Obi-Wan and Ventress. We see Quinlan and Ventress fall in love, and we see Obi-Wan defending that love and mourning with his friend when that love is gone.

Really, I just love how much Ventress is supported and understood by Obi-Wan too, not just Quinlan. How he offers the same unconditional love to a fellow Jedi and someone who tried to kill him.

Ventress sacrifices herself to save Quinlan; It is the redemption of people not just broken but shattered and how they are granted the chance to try again. This is a story of acceptance of faults and the knowledge that comes with growth. Ventress gets resurrected, and it does stick true to the theme of the book because she gets to try again, even at the end of her arc, she gets the chance to try again.

[stealingpotatoes]

I rly wish we got to see more detective obiwan in the prequels tbh 😞

we should've got more you're right!!! but they could've fixed this lack with more Obi-wan and Quinlan buddy cop stuff in tcw

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[secretly-a-trekkie]

some of my fav space wizards 💗💗💗

[twinterrors29]

when Qui-Gon publicly dropped Obi-Wan like a hot potato in favor of throwing his full weight into his bid to train Anakin, recently-Knighted Quinlan Vos decided that he had the opportunity to be the funniest motherfucker imaginable (and earn both his friend's eternal debt and ire in one move):

he claimed Obi-Wan Kenobi as his first Padawan

Obi-Wan, while definitely pissed with his friend's 'parenting,' quickly gets behind the idea of using this to spite Qui-Gon as much as possible

the Vos-Kenobi pair immediately set out to break every single one of Jinn's records as pettily as possible, and even managed to earn Quinlan the title of 'youngest Master' when Obi-Wan was Knighted only a few months later when the Council realized what was going on and tried to cut them off by just Knighting Kenobi already

[bloodbroox]

rise, sister.

prints🌙

[symeona]

Image description: It's a drawing of Aayla Secura and Quinlan Vos from Star Wars. They're both very young, with Aayla being a toddler. Quinlan is lifting the long sleeve of his robe to show Aayla hiding inside it. Quinlan is grinning affectionately while Aayla seems to be laughing nervously. The prompt of this drawing was to draw Aayla trying to convince her future teacher to take her with him on a mission. End of description.

[allthingskenobi]

Obi-Wan Kenobi & Quinlan Vos in Tales of the Underworld

[gingermaybel]

My underestimated trio✊

[noxer]

"Bury My Mother Pale and Slight (Myla's Song)" - Amalgemotion

A little bit of Hollow Knight in your Star Wars

I wanted something simple, yet emotional. I think i like it. It was a bit difficult to distribute the characters among the verses. Some fit perfectly, while others have to be interpreted. Like, "the lady, lovely and pale" suited Padme well too, but i choose "the writer" because of, well, a broken heart (i guess you can interpret the senator as a writer, in some sense?). "The sage and his sons all three" was also good for Yoda and his lineage (Dooku, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan). That's why I didn't take the last verse, because I couldn't find suitable characters for it (you can write your own ideas if you want).

But otherwise, I like the result.

[mimsilverarts]

Baby Aayla feat: Young Knight Quinlan Vos

[codywaan]

Obi-Wan and Quinlan's friendship appreciation post

[skeletons-eat]

Unfinished WIP I won't finish;P

[milkcioccolato]

Dad Maul discovers the joys of fatherhood

[galactic-rhea]

started doodling this while working on coursework nkjnjf

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[gffa]

I absolutely LOVE the choice of Tales of the Underworld first episode to not explain SHIT about how Ventress died or why Quinlan was confessing his love to her. Sink or swim in the narrative, bitch, Star Wars ain't throwing you a life preserver. Phenomenal choice, zero notes, I've been hyena laughing about it all day.

[simulation-error]

"I will always love you" // "The Jedi's words are a gift to you."